Hello Midgardians! Lorena and Jamie W here. A little while ago we decided that we needed to go see Thor: The Dark World together, based on our desire for a solo Loki movie (which Lorena wrote about a while ago) and the discovery that we have a mutual love for the Loki and Jane Foster ship, Lokane (which Jamie W wrote about yesterday). As you can see from the looks of disappointment on our faces in the cover photo, we were quite unhappy that the only poster they had at the theater was of Thor. Sorry man, we know you’re the main character, and we love you and all, but we’re all about Loki and Tom Hiddleston around here.
As if Fate needed to show us that a joint viewing experience was a good idea, right before the movie started, almost simultaneously, we turned to each other and said something along the lines of, “Just so you know, I may spontaneously grab your arm at some point during the movie.” And grab arms we did. We both loved the movie so much that we just had to break it down for you, because we’re sure that a lot of you saw it and loved it too. We cover everything from Jamie sobbing like a lunatic to Lorena tweeting Tom Hiddleston about his baking prowess…
Just a note that this is NOT a spoiler free discussion about the film. We talk about everything and even have a few spoiler images in here, so if you haven’t seen Thor: The Dark World yet, quickly abandon all other activities and responsibilities in your life and go see it so you can join in on our fangirling.
The One Where We Discuss the Ending First
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Jamie: Ok, let’s do this thing!
Lorena: Yes! I’m going to put on my Marvel theme music and my “ehehehehe” ringtone.
Jamie: Of course. We have to set the tone properly.
Lorena: So…. can we immediately talk about the part I’m still confused about?
Jamie: Yeah, go for it!
Lorena: I thought about it more and I think the “switch”/trickery happened when he came back as “the guard” and said, “We found a body” and Odin says, “Loki”…and the guard has that blue eye twinkle? Or am I reading into it too much?
Jamie: Ok, so I saw it again this afternoon and here’s what I feel like happened: Loki “dies” on the dark world, but then when we go back there, he’s actually alive and is disguised as that guard dude. So he makes his way to Asgard, and then approached Odin, and does who the hell knows what to him, and then disguises himself as Odin for his chat with Thor. If that’s what you’re talking about?
Lorena: Right, yes. So, do you think he kills Odin?
Jamie: I don’t know, I was thinking about it. Maybe yes. But if he thinks he can use him somehow he’s probably still alive
Lorena: And more importantly, if he killed Odin and then “replaces” him, will we SEE him again, or will he always look like Odin? (because I will not support this franchise any longer if that is the case)
Jamie: I think Marvel knows what’s up lol. They know the people want Tom.
Lorena: They do know this. I mean, how could people not want Tom?!
Jamie: It’s literally an impossibility. He has universal appeal.
Talking Bonus Scenes and Pretending to Get Comic Book Nerdy
Lorena: I’m still confused and the bonus scenes did not help. Though I did enjoy some slow-mo makeout scene
Jamie: Yeah I think the bonus scene at the very very end was just so we know that Thor made his way back to Jane. So he’s on Earth now I guess.
Lorena: Speaking of universal… I was nerdily reading about the Marvel Universe and about the Infinity Stones (which are better known as Infinity Gems, btw). There are SEVERAL lores to go with them.
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Jamie: Yeah I was doing some research into that, too.
Lorena: But only one involves Loki
Jamie: Oh really?
Lorena: So, basically Loki collects all of them, but then there is a 7th gem (like one ring to rule them all kind of thing) and Sersi is possessed by it (don’t know who she is either) and then Loki goes to find it (her) in the Ultraverse
Jamie: omg this is so much stuff
Lorena: and he’s pitted against some other dude to “win” the gem
Jamie: This is why I can’t handle the comic books
Lorena: but they play like superhero chess, which is like Harry Potter Chess, and the Avengers have to fight some other group. Anyway… it’s a stalemate, and Loki claims that he played NOT to lose, therefore he won. He gets the gem, but then it turns into Nemesis and basically heads to Ultraverse Earth and takes shit over.
So…….. my point is, probably that’s the story they’ll pull from AND that could viably be THE Loki movie. Like, why is wanting to control all of reality a big bad thing? Totes not.
Jamie: True
The Scene Where Jamie Lost Her Shit in the Theater
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Lorena: Anyway, should we talk about Jane and Thor? Or about how much you cried when Thor’s mom died?
Jamie: YES. This is the scene I want to talk about the most. I was NOT OK
Lorena: You were not
Jamie: As you noticed lol
Lorena: I wanted to hold you
Jamie’s approximate reaction to Frigga’s death:
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Jamie: Ok, so here’s why: In the little scene before the dark elves invade Asgard, Frigga sends that projection of herself into Loki’s cell and they have their conversation
Lorena: Right, like a reminder that she can do that
Jamie: and the LAST THING that Loki ever says to her is pretty much “you’re not my mother.” And then he finds out from some guard that she was killed
Lorena: and then he totally grieves hard.
Jamie: He wasn’t even at her funeral (which I think was a dick move on Thor and Odin’s part)
Lorena: (agreed!)
Jamie: even if you don’t do it for him, she would have wanted him there
Lorena: Right! Odin is a jerk though.
Jamie: HE IS
Lorena: UGH. Good thing he’s played by Hannibal
Jamie: So yeah. Loki needs his mommy.
Lorena: Wow… yeah, I think he does.
Taking a Moment to Appreciate Frigga
Lorena: I loved that line when they’re escaping to the Dark World and fighting and Thor’s all, “She wouldn’t want us to fight.” and Loki’s all, “She wouldn’t be surprised.”
Jamie: She was the only person who still believed in him. Odin even said that she was the only reason Loki was still alive.
Lorena: Do you think Odin and Frigga were linked? I mean, they made some quasi reference/joke right before the invasion scene and then after she was dead Odin started to cough and become weakened.
Jamie: Yeah, I was wondering that. He seems to break down a little once she’s gone. But I don’t know if that’s just “normal” grieving. In the first Thor, when Odin is in the Odinsleep, Frigga seems to be okay, so I don’t know
Lorena: True… but maybe he’s linked to her and not the other way? Like he says that he has stayed alive through all the fighting and she continues to worry, and then she says it’s my worrying that has kept you alive.
Jamie: That’s true
Lorena: Hm. We will never know probably
Jane Disappointment and Pantless Skarsgård
Jamie: So, Thor and Jane is what I believe you wanted to talk about before we started talking about the scene that I will NEVER GET OVER
Lorena: Haha! No… I was just saying maybe we talk about something other than Tom. But… I think I am still disappointed that Jane had no role but Host during the Dark world battle scene, but I guess she couldn’t, due to hosting the aether.
Jamie: Yeah
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Lorena: However! I was pleased her badass save the universe scene was the one that I did the Halloween costume for! Also, during Stellan’s pantless scene I wanted to pat Alexander on the leg and say, “Sorry” or “My dad does that too” or something. #embarrassing
Jamie: omg Selvig in this movie…
Lokane Feels Overcome All Rationalism
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Lorena: OMG! We haven’t mentioned THE BEST PART! The Loki throws Jane aside and hovers over her protection scene!!!!!! #swoon
Jamie: ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm YES
Lorena: LOKANE 4EVA
Jamie: The Lokane feels are out of control
Lorena: Beyond! I think we grabbed arms at that point. Those girls next to us were all sex noises during Hemsworth’s ONE shirtless scene, and then we’re all LOKANE SQUEEEE
Jamie: So, first he throws his body over her to protect her from the failed aether destruction and THEN he pushes her out of the way of that grenade thing
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Lorena: YES~!
OMG. Loki.
So hot.
Like, “Your lover is out of commission, so I will protect you instead. Also, here is my number and you know the secret passageway now.”
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Jamie: and he almost died there too. He would have gotten sucked in by that thing if Thor hadn’t of knocked him out of the way
Lorena: Right! Brothers 🙂
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Jamie: I would be reconsidering my options if I were Jane
Lorena: I would have already reconsidered. Though, she thinks Loki is dead. Frankly, Thor as consolation is fine.
Jamie: This is true
Lorena: or Idris Elba mmm. Whom I was pleased had a bigger role in this one!
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Jamie: omg Heimdall is THE BADDEST OF ASSES
Lorena: I KNOW!!!!!!!! His contacts still creep me out…Like Eclipse vegetarian vampire on steroids intense golden, but: “I need to report a treason” #unf
Jamie: He really is the actual best
Surprise! The Dark World Is Actually a Comedy
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Lorena: So many good lines in this film! Just like… funny and eloquent. I’m looking up the writer #normal
Jamie: yeah, apart from the whole Frigga dying and me sobbing my face off thing, I thought the movie as a whole was pretty funny
Lorena: Okay, yes, apart from that. Well… it started off NOT funny (except that awkward Jane – Chris O’Dowd date)
Jamie: and DARCY!!
Lorena: and then the climax was funny. YES! And IAN! They were adorable!
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Lorena: Okay, three writers! One of them named McFeely (not making this up!!!) If there are 3 credited screenplay writers, there’s gotta be at least ten total who wrote it. That’s crazy.
Jamie: Whoever wrote the Thor/Loki brotherly banter when they were driving the spaceship should get top billing.
Lorena: haha! I was waiting for Jane to get up and say, “Guys, SHUT UP.” and then fly the thing herself. Powered By The Aether!
Attempting to Tie Up Loose Ends
Lorena: And Eccleston! Once he spoke in English though, I was all, “It’s the Doctor!”
Jamie: Yeah, that guy. Malekith, what is your deal man?
Lorena: He likes the darkness…you saw his nightvision eyes! So, are we to assume he’s dead?
Jamie: I think so
Lorena: Also! The infinity gem at the bonus scene was red — is that the aether?
Jamie: Yeah
Lorena: So they went to collect it?
Jamie: Exactly
Lorena: Um…. and can Thor and Sif get together already? My husband is the only person who finds Thor and Jane cute, even Odin doesn’t.
Jamie: Yeah Odin is not having it
Lorena: (Loki lost an ally there) I mean, who cares if Thor will live a super long time and she won’t? He loves her! (yawn)
Jamie: Yeah, he and Sif need to make things happen, which will then free up Jane for Loki. All problems solved.
Lorena: Pretty much!
Jamie: Although I feel like Selvig would be not cool with Jane and Loki
Lorena: Ummmm NO. His reaction to Loki’s death was CLASSIC
Jamie: yes! And I was thinking, since he kind of went nuts after having Loki in his head…how’s Hawkeye doing? lol
Lorena: hahahaha! He was already nuts!! Plus I think Selvig had him in there for longer. Years?
Jamie: Yeah, it was a while. But speaking of other avengers: Captain America cameo!!!
Lorena: YES!! I bet that was fun to play, especially given how lame the Captn America trailer was… (though much better than RoboCop)
Jamie: uh, yeah. Why is a robocop movie even being made?
Lorena: Exactly! Bad idea.
Jamie Shares Some Fun Facts About Fandral
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Jamie: So do you have an opinion on Josh Dallas as Fandral in the first one to Zachary Levi as Fandral in this one?
Lorena: Okay thank you! Because I was like, “Wait, dude looks different.”
Jamie: Yeah. fun fact time! Zachary Levi was supposed to be Fandral in the first one
Lorena: oooh, but he was busy?
Jamie: but he was still doing Chuck so he couldn’t do it
Lorena: Interesting! I mean, his role was so minimal in this one.
Jamie: and then when they were making this one, Josh Dallas was doing Once Upon A Time
Lorena: Well, that worked out then?
Jamie: Fandral’s role isn’t really all that prominent in either film though. So it’s hard to say
Lorena: That’s true. I think I prefer Josh Dallas in the role though, tbh, even though I find Levi hotter. Any other fun facts?
Jamie: I feel like I have more, but I can’t remember them now! This always happens to me
Lorena: Well, let me know if you think of them!
Jamie: I’m sure they’ll come up
Lorena: I feel like I had more to say, but all I can think about is Snake Hips
Jamie: Snake Hips are distracting. It’s like hypnosis
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Lorena: Yes! I also kind of want that vintage Thor shirt now… but like… Tom’s. And I want him to take it off and give it to me.
Jamie: They could have made some big charity money by doing that
Lorena: That’s what I want for Christmas! Tom’s shirt and charity money
Jamie: And I will take Tom once he has removed the shirt
Lorena: Of course you will! I will photograph it and sell it for more charity money. We are so philanthropic!
Jamie: We really are. We’re thinking of the people
Lorena: ALL the people
Talking Sequels (Triquels?) and Scones
Jamie: Lastly though, we’re assuming that there’s going to be a third one yes?
Lorena: Right! Though, the infinity stones lends more to another Avengers… like Avengers 3 cuz Ultron is in Avengers 2.
Jamie: Because this whole Loki as secret king thing probably isnt going to be covered in Avengers 2, and that has to be dealt with
Lorena: Right! I don’t know even know! I wish I could sit down with Tom and talk to him about it. I’d offer him some tea even. I’m nice like that.
Jamie: I would offer him other things….
Lorena: Well, he has to earn that with me. Er, unless you meant scones? I mean, even then. I can’t bake scones, so…
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Jamie: CLEARLY I DID WHERE IS YOUR MIND
Lorena: I bet Tom can bake scones… I’m going to tweet him that
Jamie: What? If he can bake scones? lol
Lorena: Yes. Just did. I expect 0% of a response.
Jamie: He’s probably sleeping. He did like a solid month of promo
Lorena: He’s not still promo-ing?
Jamie: Poor tired Tom
Lorena: He needs to wake up because I’m coming to London on Friday! Only Odin gets an Odinsleep!
(this didn’t really happen, btw)
So, what did you think of Thor: The Dark World? Were your Lokane feels also out of control? What was your favorite scene of the movie? Did the ending make sense to you? I’d rather hear your theories… Is anyone shipping Darcy and Ian the Intern? Do you think Tom can bake scones? Are you now craving a scone?
Written by: Jamie W and Lorena
Jamie W’s Current Obsessions: The Beach. Walt Disney Pandora Station. Searching for the perfect haircut. The Host. Lemony Snicket. Peeta Mellark and the various baked goods he provides. Updating her wardrobe so as to appear like an actual adult. Follow her on Twitter @jamiewhitebread
